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Despite Flaws, Expand Green Scheme Now

Updated on Jul 22, 2008 – SCMP

Trading in carbon credits between rich countries and the developing world has come in for a lot of flak recently, with China, as the world’s largest source of the credits, attracting much of the criticism.

The existing system certainly has flaws, and concerns that some of the credits being traded do not represent genuine reductions in greenhouse gas emissions are clearly justified. But the idea that polluters in the rich world can meet their emission targets by funding reduction projects in developing countries remains a good one. Despite its faults, the scheme should be strengthened and expanded.

Because it makes little difference to global warming where exactly on earth greenhouse gasses are pumped into the atmosphere, the 1997 Kyoto Protocol included an arrangement called the clean development mechanism, or CDM. Under this, rich country polluters can invest in projects to cut emissions in the developing world, crediting the reductions towards their own greenhouse gas targets.

In the last couple of years, the CDM market has really taken off. More than 150 projects have won approval in China, with another 850 or so in the pipeline, mostly developing wind or hydro-power, improving energy efficiency, or cutting emissions of industrial gasses like hydrofluorocarbons.

Earlier this month, for example, investment bank Lehman Brothers agreed to pay mainland power producer China Guodian a reported €52 million (HK$644 million) for 4.2 million tonnes of certified carbon dioxide reductions.

But even as the CDM market has approached critical mass, it has come in for some withering criticism. Doubters’ top concern is that many of the certified projects would have gone ahead anyway, even without the additional incentive of CDM funding, so the reductions being traded do not represent genuine cuts in emissions.

“The whole mechanism is in question,” says Simon Powell, head of power research at broker CLSA.

According to a new study commissioned by the conservation group WWF, however, CDM funding can play a critical role in boosting internal rates of return above the 8 per cent threshold at which renewable energy projects become attractive (see chart below). Without CDM investment, many Chinese wind and hydro power projects, as well as conversions from dirty coal to cleaner gas, wouldn’t have happened.

Where the CDM scheme has been less successful is in persuading wasteful industrial companies, especially in the steel and cement sectors, to increase their energy efficiency by using waste heat to generate electricity, even though rates of return can be much more attractive. With bank credit rationed, says Fulvio Bartolucci of Azure International, the Beijing consultancy which compiled the report, energy efficiency initiatives are getting crowded out by even more lucrative investments.

Even so, the CDM scheme has been instrumental in raising Chinese companies’ interest in cutting emissions, improving transparency and setting standards. For it to be really effective, says Liam Salter of WWF, it should now be expanded from individual projects to cover whole regulatory programmes and industry sectors.

The problem with that idea is that the current CDM scheme is due to expire in 2012 and uncertainty over what will replace it is already discouraging new investments. If the mechanism is to be effective in the longer term, policy-makers need to get working now to extend and tighten the scheme. Then we might begin to see some meaningful emission reductions coming out of it.

tom.holland@scmp.com

Australia Seeks A Climate Of Persuasion

Greg Barns – Updated on Jul 16, 2008 – SCMP

China is looming large over the Australian government’s efforts to tackle climate change. That was made clear this week in a clash between two economic heavyweights: Harvard University’s Jeffrey Sachs and the Australian governments’ chief climate change adviser, Ross Garnaut.

Professor Garnaut, a former ambassador to China, has been heading a taskforce on climate change policy. Appointed by Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd shortly after he assumed office in November last year, Professor Garnaut has recently released a report which has, as its centrepiece, an emissions trading scheme.

The introduction of such a scheme, which will effectively tax heavy greenhouse gas emitters, is not dependent on the introduction of similar schemes overseas, particularly in major polluters such as China and India. And this is where the controversy lies.

Speaking at the Australian National University’s annual China Update on Monday, Professor Sachs, who advises UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, said that China would never sign up to any emissions trading scheme.

According to media reports, Professor Sachs said: “We’re going to get agreement by showing a path, and saying to [nations like] China, first, we understand that your desire to catch up [in living standards] is non-negotiable. Yes, we need [carbon] pricing. I actually believe it will come country by country, and not by a global agreement.”

Professor Garnaut disagrees. Under his plan, Australia should move quickly to introduce an emissions trading scheme and seek to influence countries like China, India and Indonesia to follow suit. As he said last week: “The arithmetic of solving the global problem doesn’t work unless China plays a substantial role from an early date.”

The message that Professor Sachs conveyed to Australia is manna from heaven for those who argue that Australia should not sacrifice economic growth for the sake of showing global leadership on climate change, while China continues on its merry way.

Some unions and businesses fear that, if Australia heads down the path of an emissions trading scheme while China does not, investment will simply relocate.

So is Australia being gullible in thinking that it can persuade China to take radical action on climate change in the short term by introducing an emissions trading scheme? Maybe, but Australia has never been better placed to work with China given Professor Garnaut’s credentials and, of course, those of Mr Rudd – the only western leader to speak Putonghua.

There were similar voices of doom when Australia began to radically reduce trade barriers two decades ago. Since then, trade flows between Australia and Asia have soared as a result of greater trade liberalisation. And one of the architects of Australia’s bold trade strategy was Professor Garnaut, as economic adviser to prime minister Bob Hawke in the 1980s.

Greg Barns is a political commentator in Australia and a former Australian government adviser

Emissions Legislation Does Not Go Far Enough

Air pollution bill passes, but lawmakers are still unhappy

Emissions legislation does not go far enough, say critics

Cheung Chi-fai – Updated on Jul 11, 2008 – SCMP

Lawmakers yesterday endorsed cross-border emissions trading and gave legal backing to caps on power firms’ emissions of pollutants.

They demanded unanimously that officials set out a framework for handling the city’s “carbon footprint”, which was excluded from the measure passed yesterday because officials say they need more time.

The measure also spells out the way caps on emissions of three major air pollutants will be determined beyond 2010.

Cross-border emissions trading will give power firms leeway to meet emissions caps by means other than reducing the pollution their chimneys spew into the air.

A majority of lawmakers voted in favour of the Air Pollution Control (Amendment) Bill 2008.

However, the legislators were unhappy that it has not put Hong Kong’s efforts on a par with other countries in the fight against climate change.

“When is the government going to really take global warming seriously? Please stop telling us that the issues are being studied and instead give us a clear timetable and strategy,” said Audrey Eu Yuet-mee, the Civic Party leader.

Democrat Sin Chung-kai urged the government to table concrete initiatives in the next legislative term to keep Hong Kong ahead of other Chinese cities in curbing greenhouse gas emissions.

DAB legislator Choy So-yuk criticised the measures as inadequate and biased in favour of power producers. “It is just a little better than nothing,” she said.

She proposed an amendment to limit the validity of emissions-trading contracts to five years. While arguing her case, she appeared close to tears as she claimed an official, who she did not name, had made misleading comments about her proposal.

“There have been media reports quoting official sources saying the real motive of my proposal was for election purposes. This is complete nonsense and misleads the public,” she said.

Without a time limit, Ms Choy said, emissions trading would merely create a window for local power producers to emit excess pollutants indefinitely as long as they could buy sufficient quota from mainland counterparts to cover the extra pollution.

Fellow lawmakers rejected her proposal. They preferred a government proposal to limit power firms to buying quotas equal to a maximum of 15 per cent of their annual pollution caps. Environment minister Edward Yau Tang-wah said Ms Choy’s proposal would reduce power producers’ flexibility to trade quotas.

As for the city’s carbon footprint – the measure of the carbon emissions all economic and human activity generates – Mr Yau said the administration was serious about taking action, but reducing it would require a significant adjustment to power producers’ fuel mix.

The Legco meeting was interrupted when two Greenpeace protesters in the public gallery held up a banner labelling the environment minister an “accomplice to global warming”.

Cleaning Up Hong Kong’s Act

Just the ticket for cleaning up our act

Thomas Tang – SCMP – Updated on Jun 28, 2008

The recent news that Hong Kong has launched a new form of international emissions trading to help the city fulfil its obligations under the Kyoto Protocol comes, literally, as a breath of fresh air for local companies.

In particular, the latitude extended to Hong Kong projects for acceptance under the Clean Development Mechanism, (CDM) through exemptions of government fees and relaxation of ownership conditions on the sale of certified emission reduction credits, should – in theory – make investing in clean energy projects all the more attractive to Hong Kong companies.

But the rush may take a while to materialise. The CDM was originally a proposal for developed economies to find ways of offsetting unavoidable carbon emissions by buying certified emission reduction credits from clean energy projects in developing economies.

Hong Kong is far from being a developing economy. The role of energy policy has much less to do with reducing global warming than ensuring energy security. The benefits of projects like wind, hydro and solar power would be questionable, given the exorbitant costs of such projects in a small environment like Hong Kong.

The city, therefore, needs a much smarter way to capitalise on the CDM and exhibit global responsibility. This mechanism could serve as the long-awaited incentive for property developers to embed energy efficient and energy reduction designs in new and existing buildings, to comply with carbon credit requirements.

This is one obvious route, but the bigger bang for the special administrative region’s buck could lie in using the mechanism to tackle one of its perennial problems – transport.

Clean transport strategies employed in cities throughout the world have paid dividends in terms of reduced congestion, better air quality and much nicer living environments. Places like London, Stockholm and Singapore have adopted traffic measures like road pricing to achieve significant reductions in vehicles on their roads.

The city of Curitiba in Brazil has been a model of how robust transport planning has enabled its inhabitants to enjoy efficient public transport but still maintain the independent advantages of private vehicle ownership, showing that the best of public and private transport systems can co-exist.

Hong Kong’s opportunity surely lies in using its highly efficient public transport system linked to strategic measures like road pricing and converting more streets to pedestrian use that would yield obvious reductions in carbon by removing vehicles from the roads.

With the backing of the National Reform Development Commission in Beijing, whose role is to screen national CDM projects, it is a huge opportunity to use market forces to bring a welcome change to Hong Kong’s environment.

Rail, bus and tram companies would be able to run their businesses and get carbon credits for their investments. Imagine the MTR Corporation being able to partially finance and operate a new line from carbon credit trading. And having to build fewer roads must make sense to the government, as well as taxpayers.

Last year’s stakeholder-engagement exercise on achieving better air quality for Hong Kong, run by the Council for Sustainable Development, showed an overwhelming public response in support of measures such as road pricing to provide cleaner air for Hong Kong, to help resolve our much publicised pollution problems.

With this need to improve the environment, the CDM opportunity must look even more attractive both politically and commercially.

It just needs Hong Kong companies and policymakers to be bold and not just engage in hot-air debates, and to actually start selling the idea.

Dr Thomas Tang is executive director of the Global Institute for Tomorrow

Hong Kong’s Carbon Trading Move

Hong Kong’s carbon trading move too little, too late: analysts

22nd June 2008

HONG KONG (AFP) — Hong Kong has joined the international carbon trading structure with a promise to slash emissions, but analysts say the move will fail to produce any serious reductions in greenhouse gases.

“It is a bit of an impotent gesture and is about four years too late,” said Shane Spurway, head of carbon banking at Fortis Bank.

In a low-key press release sent out just before a public holiday weekend earlier this month, the city’s Environmental Protection Department said it had set up the legal framework to allow projects that could sell on their reductions in carbon emissions.

“These projects will help further reduce Hong Kong’s greenhouse gas emissions,” a spokesman for the department said in the statement.

But experts doubt that the belated decision will help reduce harmful carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions.

Spurway said the projects that could have benefited from the early introduction of the scheme had already been planned and so would not be able to gain carbon credits under the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM).

The mechanism, which was set up by the international community in Kyoto, Japan in 1997 and came into force in 2005, aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by creating a worldwide cap and trade system.

Developed countries, mainly in Europe, place a limit on the amount of gases factories can emit. To meet their obligations, the polluting industries can either reduce their own emissions or buy carbon credits from people who have made reductions, often in the developing world.

The reductions in the poorer parts of the world are easier and cheaper than the developed world and so have attracted the most investment.

China has been the biggest beneficiary, according to the World Bank which says it now produces more than 70 percent of all the world’s CDM projects, targeting such heavily-polluting industries as cement and chemicals.

Until now, Hong Kong has been unable to access financing for such projects, meaning that completed landfill or power station projects have been less profitable.

The delay in agreeing the scheme has meant any projects already planned are ineligible, as schemes must prove they would only take place with the extra investment, the so-called “additionality test”.

China Light and Power, a major Hong Kong energy firm with operations across the world, said there were no plans to begin CDM projects in Hong Kong.

“While we welcome the government’s announcement on CDM, right now we do not have any projects that would use it,” a spokeswoman told AFP.

Hong Kong and China Gas Company, which operates major landfill projects in Hong Kong which may have benefited from an earlier adoption of CDM, declined to comment.

Christine Loh, from think tank Civic Exchange which has been a vocal critic of Hong Kong’s environmental record, said the move showed that business, so often the driver of policy here, was finally getting interested in the issue.

“The financial community can see carbon trading getting to a level where the world is talking about it. They can see the new assets of the future — clean air and clean water,” she said.

Both Loh and Spurway said a more significant step by the Beijing and Hong Kong governments would have been to allow Hong Kong companies operating in China to benefit from carbon-related finance to cut emissions.

Currently, Hong Kong companies are treated like foreign enterprises in China. If they want to instigate schemes that would create carbon credits, they have to set up a joint venture with a Chinese firm, which many are unwilling to do.

“You have something like 90,000 Hong Kong-owned factories (in China), but because of the joint-venture requirement, they are probably a bit reticent to set up there,” said Spurway.

The Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce welcomed the government’s move, saying it would “enable Hong Kong to contribute directly to the global effort against climate change”.

But it added that it hoped Hong Kong companies would be able to get greater benefit from carbon reduction activity in China.

Hong Kong has faced strong criticism from campaigners for its environmental policy on issues ranging from the appalling air pollution to the failure to ban plastic bags.

Business groups have argued the poor air quality, blamed on the thousands of factories just across the border in China’s manufacturing hub, is damaging the city’s ability to attract top managers and compromising its position as an international finance centre.

Hong Kong Faces

Fanny W. Y. Fung – Updated on Jun 12, 2008 – SCMP

In the mid-1980s, after taking his degree in England, Richard Au Yeung Sei-kwok took the unusual step of working on the mainland. After years of commercial success, the entrepreneur has taken another unorthodox step – pursuing the opportunities thrown up by emissions trading

Businessmen and environmental activists may often be in confrontation, but Richard Au Yeung Sei-kwok has decided to play both roles.

Having worked in the commercial arena for 24 years and run his own business for 12, the 48-year-old has now dedicated himself to the emissions trading project agreed under the Kyoto Protocol to fight climate change.

“Profit and conservation are not mutually exclusive – if there is a mechanism to commercialise environmental protection incentives,” says Mr Au Yeung, chairman and chief executive of carbon credit trading agent Enew, a company he set up in May last year.

He came across the business opportunity by chance, when he learned about the international convention and the idea of carbon trading in a conversation with a Japanese friend in 2003.

“At first I didn’t quite believe this idea. I thought: get cash for making less pollution? Is there really such a free lunch in the world?”

But after researching the topic and studying the protocol, the entrepreneur – who had run various kinds of businesses including property, recreation facilities and advertising – decided the environmental project was profitable.

With his extensive personal network on the mainland, he started lobbying municipal government officials, farm owners and industrialists to engage in the trade.

It was not an easy task. Although the nation had signed the protocol as early as 1998, many provincial and city officials knew nothing about the issue.

“They had never heard of carbon credit trading. When I approached one official in a northeastern province about the matter, he said: buy coal? You should go to Shanxi !” he recalls with a laugh.

He also visited farms and explained to owners how the straw of rice plants and pig faeces could be used for generating power, and he went to factories to teach industrialists how to cut emissions. It took him about 18 months to two years from the beginning of lobbying to the completion of a transaction.

“I didn’t know the production process was so wasteful until I really saw such a large volume of materials could be saved up for alternative uses.”

Even as a boss, Mr Au Yeung has to withstand tough working conditions. “It is very unpleasant. I need to go into all the dirty places with pig faeces, coal burners or, in the case of paper factories, scraps floating in the choking air.” Even though he has six employees, he insists on going to sites himself. “It is worthwhile going and I am used to harsh conditions.”

He says his adaptability to hardship comes from his early training on the mainland. Although educated overseas, in 1985 he opted to develop his career in the then backward mainland after graduating with a degree in mechanical engineering from Newcastle University in England, an unusual decision for graduates at that time.

“I joined a local printing firm after returning home from studying abroad in 1984. One year later I was given two choices: to stay at the company’s Hong Kong headquarters or to go to the mainland and help develop the China market,” he says.

He was sent to work in northeastern provinces and Shandong , and his career subsequently took him to Hubei , Hunan , Guangdong and Jiangxi .

“I visit the mainland frequently and I learn new things from there every year.”

Mr Au Yeung is also a standing committee member of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong and a delegate to the Heilongjiang provincial committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference.

He said he hoped measures recently announced by the Hong Kong government to cut emissions under the Kyoto Protocol would help clean the air. The city is included in the protocol as part of China.

Carbon Emissions Trading Platform

Pollution solution

Asia could benefit from having its own trading platform

Amanda Lee – Updated on Jun 10, 2008 – SCMP

As the global war on pollution intensifies, major corporations are paying greater attention to a multitrilliondollar business which aims to cut back on carbon emissions.

Several countries are signing emissions trading agreements with big polluters. These schemes place a limit on the amount of greenhouse gases companies can produce, forcing heavy polluters to buy credits from firms that pollute less – thereby creating financial incentives to fight global warming. Now, Hong Kong wants to get in on the act and, at the beginning of this year, the Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing (HKEx) said it wanted to offer Certified Emission Reduction (CER) futures and options as a hedging tool. The announcement was met with enthusiasm by both environmentalists and businesses.

And how much could this be worth? In a workshop last month, held by Hong Kong-based think-tank Civic Exchange at the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, Ian Johnson, a speaker and chairman of research company IDEAcarbon, said the global carbon market could be worth €500billion (HK$6.15trillion) by the year 2020.

Mr Johnson said that the biggest player was the United States and the biggest emissions trading organisation was the Chicago Climate Exchange. The exchange comprises non-Kyoto signatories, corporations with a corporate social responsibility (CSR) perspective and individuals looking to cut their carbon footprint.

What’s more, investment banks, such as Goldman Sachs, are looking to profit from trading carbon futures in the same way as any other commodity.

The voluntary market, including contracts traded over the counter and on exchanges, was worth a total of US$331million last year. Mr Johnson also said the most common over-the-counter transacted projects include those that are related to renewable energy, energy efficiency, methane destruction, forestry land-based projects and CO2 emissions.

Roger Raufer, an independent consultant who is an adviser to the HKEx on carbon emissions trading, says: “It is very important for Asia to have its own platform.” However, he adds that there are many questions about whether China, one of the world’s biggest polluters, should be allowed to purchase credits from the United States. In short, if an exchange is to be established, Asia has to create its own demand.

Demand is strong in Europe, where carbon credits are traded on the Oslo-based Nord Pool and the European Climate Exchange.

A spokesman at the HKEx declined to comment on the results of the exchange’s consultation on the feasibility of establishing an emissions trading platform. The HKEx said in January, in addition to working on a platform for structured products and exchange-traded funds (ETFs), it would seek to partner with an overseas exchange to build a trading/clearing platform for trading in carbon, which would include greenhouse gas allowances and credits.

Research from the Civic Exchange notes that a large proportion of emission allowances are traded by private negotiation. More than half of all European Union Greenhouse Gas Emission Trading Scheme permits are traded over the counter, according to the think-tank.

Other than the Chicago Climate Exchange and European Climate Exchange, there is the Australian Climate Exchange and the Montreal Climate Exchange, which was formed when the Chicago Climate Exchange joined with the Montreal Exchange in order to create the first environmental-product market in Canada.

There seems to be some demand in Asia, particularly from airlines that want to fulfil CSR. Angus Barclay, general manager at Cathay Pacific’s international affairs department and a panellist in the Civic Exchange workshop, says the airline supports carbon emissions trading. Apart from buying credits globally, Cathay Pacific was one of the first airlines to launch a carbon offset scheme, available to all passengers who travel on Cathay Pacific and Dragonair flights.

The scheme, FLY Greener, which was launched at the end of last year, is voluntary for passengers who can either pay in cash or with their Asia Miles.

Cathay Pacific also matched passenger contributions for the first three months from when the scheme was launched. It only costs a fraction of the ticket price for passengers.

A spokeswoman at the airline says that the response is encouraging. “It would be too soon to mention the take-up rate at this stage. The response is reasonably positive for a newly launched scheme,” she says.

“Of course, our aim is to have as many passengers as possible take up the opportunity to participate in the programme. We will be promoting this through many channels to ensure that our passengers are aware of this programme, and our staff are available to assist them to understand how it works.”

HSBC is among the first global banks to buy carbon credits to cover the pollution it generates from its office buildings, and jetting its executives around the world.

A spokeswoman says that although the bank will consider buying credits in Asia, it has been purchasing these in Europe. Other than ETFs and structured products, fund managers, such as Schroders, have launched various funds that invest in companies which work in areas that respond to climate change. Schroders says climate change is going to be the biggest investment theme in the next 20 years.

Investment bank Barclays Capital launched a carbon emission index at the end of last year which tracks the performance of carbon credits associated with the world’s major greenhouse gas emissions trading schemes: the EU Emissions Trading Scheme (EU Allowances) and the Kyoto Clean Development Mechanism, a CER.

It’s no surprise that other investment banks have jumped on the bandwagon. Societe Generale has also launched its own version of carbon emission indices. Merrill Lynch and UBS say they are working on developing these indices.

Globally, policymakers have been encouraging the development of carbon exchanges. Europe has the European Union Greenhouse Gas Emission Trading Scheme and other exchanges to trade carbon.

The US has agreed to take part in emission trading and there are commitments from all presidential candidates. The same cannot be applied in Asia, according to Mr Raufer.

He says although China has established some domestic pilot emission schemes, so far these have not been entirely successful because the mainland initially focused on acid rain.

Trading carbon credits

The Chicago Climate Exchange has established its own reduction commitments. A total of six greenhouse gases are included. Each contract represents 100 tonnes of CO2 or the equivalent.

The contracts are exchange offsets and exchange allowances which are issued to members.

Methane destruction, soil-carbon sequestration, reforestation, renewable energy and CDM-eligible projects are examples of eligible offset projects. Source: Civic Exchange

Carbon Solutions

China Daily – Updated: 2008-05-26 11:12

Founded in 1886 in Boston, Arthur D Little (ADL), the world’s first management consulting firm, is focusing on advising Chinese enterprises on maximizing the benefits from the international trade in carbon credit under the Kyoto Protocol.

To do so, the company’s China operation, covering Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong, is expanding its consultant team from 45 to 100 professionals in 2008. In an interview with China Business Weekly reporter Tuo Yannan, Thomas Schiller, managing director of ADL China, says his single most important goal is to bring ADL’s expertise and experience to the fast growing Chinese market.

Arthur D Little was established by Arthur Dehon Little, a chemist, who was credited for the discovery of acetate, and co-worker Roger Griffin, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The company was involved in the development of the word processor and synthetic penicillin, and the founding of the NASDAQ trading system. Today the company is one of the world’s leading management consulting firms, providing a broad range of services to enterprises such like GE, IBM and GM.

Q: What kind of carbon advisory services do you provide? And what benefit can your customers get by this service?

A: First of all I must explain that carbon advisory is just a very small piece of advisory we provide. Actually though we are a strategy consulting company, we provide not only strategy but also innovation. We do carbon advisory as a part of strategy, we need to identify the risks and the opportunities, and especially in the western world, carbon margin is a long-term effect. If you identify the strategy, you consider how the carbon makes a “carbon margin”. Use the investment strategy as an example, you can invest in low carbon technology that has a long-term positive affect on your business.

Let’s use energy sourcing for an illustration. For example, for a chemical industry company energy is its most important cost of its business, so the entire carbon margin strategy means investing for 20 years. Especially in the CO2 emissions and the downstream of the products used. We provide our customer’s entire strategy including designing the value chain, investment plan, and so on. It’s not a strategy from which you can make a profit in one night, but a forward-looking plan for the future especially in multinational business.

Q: Could you give some examples to illustrate the cost effectiveness of your solutions when applied in the market?

A: We have three examples from the different industry segments. First one, a Saudi telecom operator. We made a strategy in investment changes that resulted in a 14 percent energy efficiency improvement and 40 percent CO2 emissions reduction.

For a manufacturing group we had $1.5 million in savings. And the “carbon margin” we did for a national oil company had $10 million in revenues from carbon credits.

Because the carbon credits can be traded globally, and based on our strategy using the different investments, we have different services to provide. Take an example from a global oil company. It’s allowed 30 carbon credits globally. If the company not consumed all the carbon pollution, it can sell the rest carbon credits to other companies. So they can get revenues from those trades.

Q: In China, who are your customers in carbon advisory services? The Chinese enterprises or MNCs?

A: Currently multinational companies are our major customers. They all have very strong business in China and have a deep influence in Chinese companies. But I think Chinese companies here in the local market especially in the areas of energy consumption, energy efficiency and low-carbon investment, will invest more than the foreign companies. So the Chinese companies are our important potential and prospective customers.

Q: Can you give some analyses about China’s efforts to save energy and reduce emissions? And what service do you offer to help your customers adapt it?

A: The Chinese Government has an energy consumption reduction target of 20 percent per unit of GDP by end of 2010 and has its own energy saving targets for new projects, coal-fired power plants and outdated production facilities etc. However, businesses themselves can look to reduce their own carbon emissions and find business opportunities in upgrading their existing business strategies. In particular we can assist companies to reduce their own emissions by using more efficient production technologies and improving materials efficiency. They can also use fewer carbon intensive energy sources in production, make use of low carbon technologies and better manage energy demand and better source appropriate energy solutions.

For example, we worked with an international chemicals company to identify approaches to re-organize their new product division to exploit opportunities created by climate change. We developed a number of segments amounting to 30 billion yuan ($4.32 bilion) market size by 2012 by increasing their competencies and potential for partnerships.

Q: Some MNCs have a very good relationship with the Chinese government and local companies. Do you consider cooperating with the government or private Chinese companies?

A: We do have cooperation with other countries’ governments, including in the United States and mainly in Europe and Northern Europe, even Saudi Arabia. And I think most of our business in China should be with Chinese companies. A lot of multinational companies in China use the business models of Europe or America, but many companies failed because the Chinese market is completely different. So I think making a closer relationship and ties to the Chinese local governments and companies are vital for foreign companies.

Q: Compared with their foreigner competitors, what are the most important things you think Chinese companies should improve on?

A: Of cause it’s dissimilar working with Chinese companies, but a similar problem is management expertise – the management confidence. Sometimes the Chinese companies don’t get enough managers to run the business. Their strong point is that they are very familiar with the Chinese local market. The next step includes two things, first is to enhance the product’s quality, making it more competitive in the global market. Second is to have enough long-term success to do multinational business. Here I see a big value in consulting services in China.

Q: What is your goal in a specific period?

A: We now have three offices in China, in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. Our clerks were sent to every province in China. Last year our sales revenue grew 400 percent over 2006, and because our business in China grows so fast, we made an ambitious layout for 2008 to increase the number of our strategy consulters from 45 to 100.